Monday, July 23, 2018

Neocatecumenal Way - a Trojan Horse in the Church

Msgr. Schneider: “The (Neocatecumenal) Way is a Trojan Horse in the Church

Msgr. Athanasius Schneider, during an interview on March 6, 2016 (the complete text can be found at:, also spoke about the Neocatecumenal Way.

Neocathecumenal Way is a Protestant-Jewish community
MR. FÜLEP: While the tradition is persecuted, there are some new modern movements which are highly supported. One of them is the community of Kiko. What is your opinion about the Neocatechumenal Way?[11]
His Excellency Bishop Schneider: This is a very complex and sad phenomenon. To speak openly: It is a Trojan horse in the Church. I know them very well because I was an Episcopal delegate for them for several years in Kazakhstan in Karaganda. And I assisted their Masses and meetings and I read the writings of Kiko, their founder, so I know them well. When I speak openly without diplomacy, I have to state: The Neocathecumenate is a Protestant-Jewish[12] community inside the Church with a Catholic decoration only. The most dangerous aspect is regarding the Eucharist, because the Eucharist is the heart of the Church. When the heart is in a bad way, the whole body is in a bad way. For the Neocatechumenate, the Eucharist is primarily a fraternal banquet. This is a Protestant, a typically Lutheran attitude.[13] They reject the idea and the teaching of the Eucharist as a true sacrifice. They even hold that the traditional teaching of, and belief in, the Eucharist as a sacrifice is not Christian but pagan.[14] This is completely absurd, this is typically Lutheran, Protestant. During their liturgies of the Eucharist they treat the Most Holy Sacrament in such a banal manner, that it sometimes becomes horrible.[15] They sit while receiving Holy Communion, and then they lose the fragments because they do not take care of them, and after Communion they dance instead of praying and adoring Jesus in silence. This is really worldly and pagan, naturalistic.

MR. FÜLEP: The problem may be not just practical…
His Excellency Bishop Schneider: The second danger is their IDEOLOGY. The main idea of the Neocathecumenate according their founder Kiko Argüello is the following: the Church had an ideal life only until Constantine in the 4th century, only this was effectively the real Church. And with Constantine the Church started to degenerate: doctrinal degeneration, liturgical and moral degeneration.[16] And the Church reached the rock bottom of this degeneration of doctrine and liturgy with the decrees of the Council of Trent. However, contrary to his opinion, the opposite is true: this was one of the highlights of the history of the Church because of the clarity of doctrine and discipline. According to Kiko, the dark age of the Church lasted from the 4th century until the Second Vatican Council. It was only with Vatican Council II that light came into the Church. This is heresy because this is to say that the Holy Spirit abandoned the Church. And this is really sectarian and very much in line with Martin Luther, who said that until him the Church had been in darkness and it was only through him that there was light in the Church. The position of Kiko is fundamentally the same only that Kiko postulates the dark time of the Church from Constantine to Vatican II. So they misinterpret the Second Vatican Council. They say that they are apostles of Vatican II. Thus they justify all their heretical practices and teachings with Vatican II. This is a grave abuse.

MR. FÜLEP: How could this community be officially admitted by the Church?
His Excellency Bishop Schneider: This is another tragedy. They established a powerful lobby in the Vatican at least thirty years ago. And there is another deception: at many events they present very many fruits of conversion and many vocations to the bishops. A lot of bishops are blinded by the fruits, and they don’t see the errors, and don’t examine them. They have large families, they have a lot of children, and they have a high moral standard in family life. This is, of course, a good result. However, there is also a kind of exaggerated behaviour to press the families to get a maximum number of children. This is not healthy. And they say, we are accepting Humanae Vitae,[17] and this is, of course, good. But in the end this is an illusion, because there are also quite a lot of Protestant groups today in the world with a high moral standard, who also have a great number of children, and who also go and protest against the gender ideology, homosexuality, and who also accept Humanae Vitae. But, for me, this is not a decisive criterion of truth! There are also a lot of Protestant communities who convert a lot of sinners, people who lived with addictions such as alcoholism and drugs. So the fruit of conversions is not a decisive criterion for me and I will not invite this good Protestant group which converts sinners and has a lot of children to my diocese to engage in apostolate. This is the illusion of many bishops, who are blinded by the so-called fruits.

MR. FÜLEP: What is the quoin stone of doctrine?
His Excellency Bishop Schneider: The doctrine of the Eucharist. This is the heart. It is an error to look first at the fruits and ignore or not take care of doctrine and liturgy. I am sure that there will come the time when the Church objectively examines this organisation in depth without the pressure of the lobbies of the Neocathecumenal Way, and their errors in doctrine and liturgy will truly come out.

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Notes - of Dániel Fülep

[11] The Neocatechumenal Way (Neocatechumenate, NCW) is an organization dedicated to the Christian formation of people. It was formed in Madrid in 1964 by Kiko Argüello and Carmen Hernández.
[12] The community mixes the liturgy of the Church with Protestant and Jewish elements.
[13] The movement has long wanted to have the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments approve its liturgical abuses. Following consultations with the Congregation, it was the Pontifical Council for the Laity that approved the Catechetical Directory of the Neocathecumenal Way and the extra-liturgical practices therein. Therefore this permission applies only to non-liturgical practices. The decree of 20 January 2012 has nothing to do with the “liturgical innovations” of the Neocathecumenal Way, which should promptly be terminated because they are against the universal rules and practice of the Church.
[14] The Council of Trent (1545–63) declared as a dogma that, as opposed to the Protestant view, the sacrifice of the Holy Mass does include a propitiatory element (DH 1743, 1753). The sacrifice was ordered by Christ himself. It is not only simple commemoration, glorification or thanksgiving but a real propitiatory sacrifice for the living and the dead. The fact, however, that the mass is a real sacrifice isn’t to say that Christ’s sacrifice must be repeated. The Church does not turn Christ’s sacrifice into a pagan human sacrifice. The sacrifice of the Holy Mass is not a repetition of the sacrifice of the Cross but Christ’s only sacrifice made present under sacramental signs. In this sense it is “commemoration”, in which the reality of the sacramental economy itself is present (DH 1740). Christ is the same high priest in the Holy Mass as on the cross (DH 1743).
[15] The liturgy of the Neocathecumenal Way does not comply with the General Instruction of the Roman Missal or the other liturgical rules but has its own ”liturgical innovations”. The liturgical practice of the Way is full of abuses: in fact the Vatican has called the attention of the movement to problems like laity sermons in their Holy Mass, the faithful dancing during liturgy and standing rather than kneeling during Eucharistic prayer, receiving Holy Communion sitting and passing a huge chalice with Christ’s blood in it from hand to hand. Regulations on church music are completely ignored. Another problem is that the Way separates the faithful from the parish and the church: the Sunday Holy Mass, which is full of abuses, is always celebrated Saturday evening as the "Private Mass” of the community, usually not in a church but at a profane place, e.g. in a community room.
[16] On 13 June 313 Constantine issued the Edict of Milan, ending the persecution of Christians and acknowledging Christianity as a valid religion of the Roman Empire. In 315 he terminated crucifixion as a form of execution and granted all the privileges of pagan religions to the Church. In 321 Constantine declared Sunday as a holiday. As an absolute ruler he helped to establish the institutional basis of the Church throughout the Empire from 324. The establishment of the institutional structure and the social-political strengthening of the Church as well as the alliance of throne and altar are considered by Protestants as the victory of paganism.
[17] Humanae vitae (Of Human Life) is an encyclical written by Pope Paul VI and issued on 25 July 1968. Subtitled On the Regulation of Birth, it re-affirms the orthodox teaching of the Catholic Church regarding married love, responsible parenthood and the continued rejection of most forms of birth control.

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One of the most important goals of Satan in the period of time, with his very numerous followers in Freemasonry, is to eliminate the Eucharist in all the public churches in the world, which is referred to in Sacred Scripture as “the Abomination of Desolation”.

The Neocatecumenal Way is contributing a great deal to arrive at this “HORRIBLE SACRILEGE”!

Writing about the second coming of Jesus Christ in the second letter to the Thessalonians, St. Paul tells us: Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the REBELLION (APOSTASY) COMES FIRST, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you this? And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, and the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by his appearing and his coming” (2Thess 2:3-8).

Before “the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition … only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed…” Above all what is “RESTRAINING” the “man of lawlessness” is the presence of Jesus Christ as the Truth (Jn 14:6) and especially His real presence in the Most Holy Eucharist of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass; Satan seeks to trivialize both so as to deprive us of God’s guidance and His powerful protection and help. Before the manifestation of the Antichrist, “the continual burnt offering” (Dan 8:11; 12:11), will be taken away, and the “sacrifice and offering” will cease (Dan 9:27), which Jesus foretold (Mt 24:15). This sacrilege is the ultimate “ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION” (Mt 24:15; Mk 13:14; 2Thess 2:3-4; Dan 9:27; 11:31; 12:11)!

The Second Vatican Council tells us that only the Catholic Church has the fullness of the means of sanctification, the sacraments, especially the Eucharist, and the fullness of the truth with the guidance of the Magisterium of the Church (Lumen Gentium 8). The Truth comes from God, and not from the Church, and thus no priest, bishop or pope can change the Truth of Divine Revelation which is well summarized in the Catechism of the Catholic Church for adults (CCC, ed. 1992). Simply put, this is precisely what several cardinals are saying in the “Dubia” (November 2016) and in their book “Remaining in the Truth of Christ: Marriage and Communion in the Catholic Church” (October 2014). Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI told us: “ONLY WHAT IS TRUE CAN ULTIMATELY BE PASTORAL”! “What is true” is that it has always been a mortal sin to have sex outside of marriage!!! In a very sly and hidden way, with beautiful deadly lies presented as if they were the truth, with hidden deceptions and with half truths, that is, to speak only about mercy without “Go and sin no more” (Jn 8:11: 5:14), a great number of highest ranking leaders in the Church are leading the Church very quickly away from the truth of God, which does not change with the world; this is what Pope Benedict calls “the dictatorship of relativism” (“Who Decides The Truth?”;

This deception, this lose of the Eucharist, “the source and summit of the Christian life” (Vat. II: LG 11; CCC 1324), is being done slowly and in such a way that as few Catholics as possible will realize the lose of our greatest treasure and strength on earth, the real sacramental presence of Jesus Christ. The focus of attention has been intentionally shifted from adoration of God to man as the center of the Liturgy. Even fewer Catholics know the FOUR CONDITIONS NECESSARY FOR A VALID MASS. None of this could happen if the priests and bishops of the Catholic Church would obey the Liturgical Books of the Catholic Church; Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict ordered the founders of the Neocatecumenal Way to obey the Liturgical Books but they refused obey (

The Sacrifice of the Mass renews that which was accomplished by Jesus on Calvary. By accepting the Protestant doctrine, people will hold that the Mass is not a sacrifice but only a sacred meal, that is to say, a remembrance of that which Jesus did at his Last Supper. And thus, the celebration of Holy Mass will be suppressed. In this abolition of the daily Sacrifice consists THE HORRIBLE SACRILEGE accomplished by the Antichrist, which will last about three and a half years, namely, one thousand two hundred and ninety days” (December 31, 1992; “To The Priests Our Lady’s Beloved Sons”;

Saint Padre Pio said: "It would be easier for the world to survive without the sun than to do so without the HOLY MASS." This saint also said: “The ROSARY is the weapon for these times”! Stay close to the Sacraments and pass as much time as possible praying the Holy Rosary before the Most Blessed Sacrament while our Eucharistic Lord is still in the tabernacles of our public churches!

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There is less prayer than ever before, more sin than ever before, even worse, indifference as if sin no longer exists, and so we have given much greater power to “the father of lies”, Satan (Jn 8:44). In particular Satan has more power to “disguise himself as an angel of light” (2Cor 11:14), to offer his very deadly beautiful lies as if they were the “truth that sets us free” (Jn 8:32)!
Thus it is very important in these times of great confusion, when even Catholic bishops are no longer in agreement about the fundamentals of our faith and morals, to not only pray much and to study the Catechism of the Catholic Church for adults, but to keep our eyes open so as not to fall into the beautiful lies of Satan presented as if they were the Truth!
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